>> well, i would say based on what he did, which was send a package to cnn, that does tell us that he wants national or international attention. at least we have to allow for that possibility. and so, if this is what this is all about, he can no longer take on lapd because that's a formable force down there right now. it makes sense to me, there's a good possibility he could reach out for the media and probably not via the mail this time, but more likely through a phone call directly into a media outlet. i would just suggest as a possibility folks be prepared for that. >> martha: quickly, if you can, what do you think his next move is likely to be? >> here is what i can tell you backwards. he does not want to be in handcuffs, arrested and put in the back of a squad car driven by a lapd officer. he does not want that. they're the enemies. that leaves suicide and certainly a very likely possibility, suicide by cop, but if people get in his way, it could also include murder. he does not want to be arrested and brought into custody by lapd. >> martha: very interesting. mary ellen o'toole,